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Post by Carlos Bernard on Nov 30, 2011 2:06:43 GMT -5
Lol at rob freaking out. Poor guy
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Post by Carlos Bernard on Nov 30, 2011 2:12:13 GMT -5
at jenna being mad at you
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Post by Wendy Jo DeSmidt-Kohlhoff on Nov 30, 2011 2:35:17 GMT -5
That's an unfinished convo FWIW.
For the record, this all would have worked out MUCH better if Rob would have kept his mouth shut and let me do damage control.
I still think overall I did aight. But it would have been much better of Rob would have listened to me.
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Post by Wendy Jo DeSmidt-Kohlhoff on Dec 11, 2011 18:53:15 GMT -5
Monica and Me, Round 9:
Monica Padilla: (3:56:59 PM) Hey Wendy Jo: (3:57:21 PM) hey! Monica Padilla: (3:57:31 PM) How's it going? Wendy Jo: (3:59:25 PM) Good good. I need to take an online final, but bleh Wendy Jo: (3:59:29 PM) I don't wanna do it lol Monica Padilla: (3:59:43 PM) Ew, that's no fun Monica Padilla: (3:59:51 PM) I got screwed on one of my papers Monica Padilla: (4:00:08 PM) Got it 80% finished, then realized that it didn't meet the criteria and there was no way to rewrite it Monica Padilla: (4:00:14 PM) So I had to scrap it entirely and start again Wendy Jo: (4:00:19 PM) Ouch Monica Padilla: (4:00:54 PM) Yeah, I'm pissed Monica Padilla: (4:00:58 PM) But, meh, could be worse Wendy Jo: (4:01:14 PM) I'm gettin 2 B+'s Wendy Jo: (4:01:20 PM) One was 2 points away from an A- Wendy Jo: (4:01:28 PM) the other 5 points away from an A- -_- Wendy Jo: (4:01:47 PM) Now, I', fine with B's Wendy Jo: (4:01:54 PM) But when it's THAT close to an A..... Monica Padilla: (4:02:11 PM) Aw, that's harsh Wendy Jo: (4:03:02 PM) Yeah. Wendy Jo: (4:03:04 PM) It is lol Monica Padilla: (4:03:14 PM) I hate it when that kind of thing happens Monica Padilla: (4:03:27 PM) So, mm Monica Padilla: (4:03:36 PM) I think we ought to talk about the merge. Monica Padilla: (4:03:42 PM) Obviously, it'll be 6-4 Monica Padilla: (4:03:47 PM) If you flip, it's 5-5 Monica Padilla: (4:04:07 PM) And obviously there's no great reason for you to stick with Kainai, since you think you'd have been next if we'd lost. Wendy Jo: (4:04:59 PM) Well, can you tell me honestly, would I have been next if we lost? Monica Padilla: (4:05:09 PM) I can tell you 100% you would not have. Wendy Jo: (4:05:24 PM) Who would it have been? Monica Padilla: (4:05:26 PM) It's possible that your name might have come up as a target Monica Padilla: (4:05:42 PM) But I would have made sure you wouldn't have been the one who actually left Monica Padilla: (4:06:32 PM) There's at least one idol on our tribe, and I'd have bent over backwards to make sure it got played on you Wendy Jo: (4:06:43 PM) And you know who has it? Monica Padilla: (4:06:50 PM) I do indeed. Wendy Jo: (4:07:02 PM) So are you telling me that you found the Kainai Idol? Monica Padilla: (4:07:21 PM) It's quite possible. Monica Padilla: (4:07:29 PM) However, if I DID find it Monica Padilla: (4:07:36 PM) You can understand why I wouldn't want to come right out and say that Wendy Jo: (4:07:45 PM) No of course. Monica Padilla: (4:07:48 PM) Since I'm alreayd probably getting floated around as the biggest threat ever Monica Padilla: (4:08:04 PM) Fact of the matter is Monica Padilla: (4:08:08 PM) You wouldn't have gone. Wendy Jo: (4:08:31 PM) Well, the only person who ever brought up your name was Rob, but that was because we were trying to figure something out. I quickly explained to him why we can't, and shouldn't vote you out. Wendy Jo: (4:08:42 PM) From everyone I've talked to, no one was even mentioned your name. Monica Padilla: (4:08:47 PM) *nods* Monica Padilla: (4:08:50 PM) Rob said that Brett did Monica Padilla: (4:08:57 PM) After he got voted off Monica Padilla: (4:08:58 PM) So I dunno Wendy Jo: (4:09:00 PM) Brett never told me that Monica Padilla: (4:09:23 PM) Yeah, Rob might have been making that up Wendy Jo: (4:09:41 PM) IMO, he may have been making it up to try to help save my ass Wendy Jo: (4:10:12 PM) But back to the Idol.... I know that there is at least one floating around at Kainai. I asked you if you had it, only to see if there was possibly more than 1 on our tribe. Monica Padilla: (4:11:25 PM) There might be Monica Padilla: (4:11:37 PM) The Chehalis idol either got played by Jimmy or is being held by Joel Monica Padilla: (4:11:47 PM) Nobody really knows for sure Wendy Jo: (4:12:43 PM) Yeah. That's the conclusion everyone has come to. So you're saying you know the location of the Kainai Idol? Monica Padilla: (4:12:53 PM) I'm saying I know who has it, yeah. Monica Padilla: (4:13:09 PM) But, basically, my overall point Monica Padilla: (4:13:18 PM) Is that I'd like for you to stick with me. Monica Padilla: (4:13:23 PM) Help me kill Phill Monica Padilla: (4:13:39 PM) And once I know that you guys are in a good spot Wendy Jo: (4:13:45 PM) lol. Phillip is likely toast this round anyways unless he found the Athena Idol Monica Padilla: (4:13:46 PM) I will willingly allow myself to get voted off Monica Padilla: (4:13:51 PM) Seriously? Monica Padilla: (4:13:57 PM) Ohhhh that would make me overjoyed Wendy Jo: (4:13:59 PM) Mmmhmmm. Wendy Jo: (4:14:03 PM) In Kelly's boot Wendy Jo: (4:14:21 PM) He helped orchestrate the blindside of Jimmy that didn't go down in the revote Monica Padilla: (4:14:27 PM) lmao Wendy Jo: (4:14:44 PM) So I'd be shocked if anyone but him goes this round TBH. Monica Padilla: (4:15:12 PM) I dunno, though, they certainly had no problem axing the Chehalis ppl instead of him Wendy Jo: (4:15:33 PM) Well probably cause they knew of the Phillip-Eliza connection Wendy Jo: (4:15:38 PM) and the Eliza-Jenna connection Monica Padilla: (4:15:44 PM) Yeah probably Wendy Jo: (4:16:59 PM) I won't lie and say I haven't considered flipping. But I'm not dumb. I'm not just gonna automatically jump ship to an auto 5th at best, where there is at least some room for wiggling here on Kainai. Monica Padilla: (4:17:18 PM) Yeah, I figured you were smart enough not to pull a Cochran. Wendy Jo: (4:17:21 PM) I have no intentions of sinking my game like that. Monica Padilla: (4:17:42 PM) And, honestly, I like you more than I like most of Kainai Wendy Jo: (4:17:57 PM) lol thanks. Who else do you like on Kainai? Monica Padilla: (4:18:10 PM) I get along fine with all of them Monica Padilla: (4:18:13 PM) Don't like Steph, though Monica Padilla: (4:18:29 PM) She's useless and hasn't done anything Wendy Jo: (4:18:51 PM) I would agree on that Wendy Jo: (4:19:00 PM) She's never really made a serious attempt to talk to me Monica Padilla: (4:19:06 PM) I'm also not really sure what to do about Joel Monica Padilla: (4:19:21 PM) He's alright, but I feel like I'm still somewhat pissed about how season 4 went down Monica Padilla: (4:19:30 PM) He still doesn't know that I was in that season Monica Padilla: (4:19:30 PM) lol Wendy Jo: (4:19:42 PM) Oh you were? lol who were you? Monica Padilla: (4:20:23 PM) lol Monica Padilla: (4:20:26 PM) I was epicfail Chet Wendy Jo: (4:20:43 PM) lol Chet Monica Padilla: (4:20:45 PM) I basically wanted to try playing a game where I would just be a jerk, and see how well that went Monica Padilla: (4:21:04 PM) Apparently... Not well AT ALL Monica Padilla: (4:21:31 PM) Everybody's Rites of Passage were essentially "Yeah... Chet was... something." Wendy Jo: (4:22:06 PM) XD Wendy Jo: (4:22:18 PM) Well, I don't think we need to worry about Joel Wendy Jo: (4:22:25 PM) At all. He doesn't like the S4 crew Monica Padilla: (4:23:05 PM) yeah Monica Padilla: (4:24:42 PM) But, yeah Monica Padilla: (4:24:44 PM) My plan is Monica Padilla: (4:24:46 PM) And always has been Monica Padilla: (4:24:51 PM) To take you to the end Monica Padilla: (4:25:09 PM) But my assumption is that I'll probably wind up getting voted off before that actually happens. lol Wendy Jo: (4:26:07 PM) I never even expected to make the merge lol Monica Padilla: (4:26:16 PM) Hahaha Monica Padilla: (4:26:21 PM) Me neither, to tell the truth Wendy Jo: (4:29:18 PM) But now that I am this close... I want to go as far as possible. And I do want to stick with Kainai peeps. But I have absolutely know idea where I really stand in the tribe. I know your telling me I'm good, and that you want to work with me. I believe that. But I am still extremely uneasy. How can I be sure you aren't just telling me this to get the upper hand in the merge? Does that make sense? Monica Padilla: (4:29:31 PM) Indeed. Monica Padilla: (4:29:36 PM) Well, look at it this way Monica Padilla: (4:30:05 PM) Even if you do flip Monica Padilla: (4:30:12 PM) I obviously have access to at least one idol Monica Padilla: (4:30:24 PM) In all actuality, I don't need you in the strictest sense. Monica Padilla: (4:31:28 PM) The only reason I'm saying this stuff is because it's true Monica Padilla: (4:31:34 PM) besides, as I said to you at the beginning of the game Monica Padilla: (4:31:36 PM) I don't need to win Monica Padilla: (4:31:38 PM) I've won already. Monica Padilla: (4:31:52 PM) I'm interested in making sure that whoever wins All Stars deserves it. Monica Padilla: (4:32:11 PM) Because I've played in a few series where the All Star winner was shit Monica Padilla: (4:32:17 PM) And that devalues the series as a whole Monica Padilla: (4:32:45 PM) If I wanted to win, I'd have tried to get you out long ago, because you're pretty major competition Monica Padilla: (4:33:11 PM) And, yeah, you're not in the greatest position in the tribe. Monica Padilla: (4:33:20 PM) Last season Elyse was supposed to be voted off every single round Monica Padilla: (4:33:26 PM) And nearly was, several times Monica Padilla: (4:33:33 PM) And every time she got pulled through Wendy Jo: (4:35:47 PM) No, I understand. But in my position, I need a solid agreement. I need something more defined than "You're good". I'm not trying to be a controlling bitch. But I know you've got to have a plan. You're smart. You won. Trust me, if I had ended up in a position with numbers, I would have had Plan A, B, C, and D. But since I've been one of the few consistently shuffled, I haven't had time to really make any sort of relationship with anyone. Everyone I did, has been voted out. Except for you. Basically, I guess what I am trying to say where do I fit exactly into your plans? Who else are you working with closely? You're asking me to basically blindly trust you. Which I do trust you. But it's hard to feel even slightly comfortable when you don't know anything at all. Monica Padilla: (4:36:14 PM) Ah, I see. Monica Padilla: (4:36:30 PM) Okay, well, here's how things stand. Monica Padilla: (4:36:41 PM) I essentially have a lot of non-promised bonds with a lot of people. Monica Padilla: (4:37:06 PM) In that person X and I will discuss the vote and essentially agree not to vote for each other, with no actual guarantee to take each other anywhere. Wendy Jo: (4:37:27 PM) Makes sense Wendy Jo: (4:37:34 PM) That's how I've been playing it Monica Padilla: (4:37:59 PM) TBh, I don't have a solid endgame plan because I'm well aware that because of how I've played the premerge it's very, VERY unlikely that I'm ever going to get there. Monica Padilla: (4:39:00 PM) I know that if I could get there, I would want you there with me Wendy Jo: (4:39:14 PM) I appreciate your honesty. I think we could get there. Monica Padilla: (4:39:25 PM) I think Natalie is probably someone I could trust, I have moderate trust in Brett, I think I can trust Joel Monica Padilla: (4:39:42 PM) But the real truth of the situation is that I honestly can't assume that anybody is a solid ally of mine. Wendy Jo: (4:40:05 PM) No, that makes sense. especially in THIS season, you can't. Monica Padilla: (4:40:12 PM) Exactly. Monica Padilla: (4:40:14 PM) Last season, I could Monica Padilla: (4:40:22 PM) This season, where I'm the latest winner? Monica Padilla: (4:40:25 PM) Nuh-uh Wendy Jo: (4:41:27 PM) I'm willing to make a 100% solid, no backing out agreement with you. I think together, we could really reign things in, especially of people don't know how tight we are. I know no one left knows how much I talk to you. Monica Padilla: (4:41:43 PM) Yeah, I don't think anybody suspects it. Wendy Jo: (4:42:51 PM) If you can tell me who has the Kainai Idol, I can tell you 100% who has the Chehalis Idol, Joel or Jimmy. I think of we share this information, then we both have a lot of power. Monica Padilla: (4:43:03 PM) Indeed. Monica Padilla: (4:43:15 PM) Alright, fair enough. Monica Padilla: (4:43:23 PM) I've got it. Wendy Jo: (4:43:26 PM) I can tell you that Joel found the Chehalis Idol. Wendy Jo: (4:43:45 PM) Jimmy does not have it. Monica Padilla: (4:43:46 PM) In general I don't like to admit that I have them Monica Padilla: (4:43:52 PM) They tend to be cursed Monica Padilla: (4:44:01 PM) Usually I just throw them away so nobody gets them Wendy Jo: (4:44:08 PM) lol Monica Padilla: (4:44:18 PM) In this case, though, I had a feeling that if Kainai went on a losing streak I'd wind up needing it Monica Padilla: (4:44:45 PM) And since my #1 goal was to beat Phillip, I sure as hell wasn't going to take any chances Wendy Jo: (4:44:46 PM) But I know Joel from a previous game, so we have an uneasy alliance going. That's why I'm so confident I can trust him. We were never allies, but a little bit of history goes a long way. Monica Padilla: (4:44:52 PM) YEah Monica Padilla: (4:45:03 PM) Well, I'd be down for you/me/Joel to work together. Wendy Jo: (4:45:23 PM) I think us three would be good Monica Padilla: (4:45:23 PM) I'd also like to keep Nat around out of anybody on Kainai. I like her the most out of them Wendy Jo: (4:45:31 PM) Epecially, since Joel seems to draw negativity. Monica Padilla: (4:45:37 PM) And I believe that she likes Joel Wendy Jo: (4:45:47 PM) And if he doens't flip to Athena, he will be pissing them off majorly Wendy Jo: (4:45:52 PM) And I like Natalie too Wendy Jo: (4:46:07 PM) I would be totally OK with a Us/Joel/Natalie F4 Monica Padilla: (4:46:14 PM) Me too Wendy Jo: (4:48:05 PM) I think the only thing we need to worry about is the Athena Idol Wendy Jo: (4:48:15 PM) And hoping one of us isn't the victim of the Idol. Monica Padilla: (4:48:22 PM) Indeed. Monica Padilla: (4:48:32 PM) Well, I may have something which can help with that. Monica Padilla: (4:48:44 PM) I've been fostering a kinship with Na Monica Padilla: (4:48:55 PM) Haven't promised her jack all because, quite frankly, she's Phillip's friend Monica Padilla: (4:49:07 PM) And she'd definitely try to keep him around Wendy Jo: (4:49:12 PM) Mmhmm. Monica Padilla: (4:49:23 PM) But I think I could persuade her to direct her focus to Steph or Brett Monica Padilla: (4:49:40 PM) Admittedly, this is all assuming anybody even HAS the Athena idol Wendy Jo: (4:49:48 PM) True Monica Padilla: (4:49:52 PM) Original Athena had the hardest clue out of any tribe Monica Padilla: (4:49:56 PM) "Losing makes you blue" Monica Padilla: (4:50:20 PM) My original thought was Stephenie, who was on three losing blue tribes. Wendy Jo: (4:50:24 PM) True Monica Padilla: (4:50:25 PM) But no dice. Monica Padilla: (4:50:36 PM) So unless the second clue was WAY more direct Monica Padilla: (4:50:44 PM) There's really no reason to assume they cracked it Wendy Jo: (4:50:53 PM) If we need, I can also pretend to flip. It wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination for me to be pissed at y'all. Monica Padilla: (4:50:57 PM) Yeah Monica Padilla: (4:50:59 PM) That works too Monica Padilla: (4:51:22 PM) They'll probably come a'courtin' Wendy Jo: (4:51:24 PM) It all depends how Athena's TC goes down. Wendy Jo: (4:51:30 PM) Oh, I'm sure they will. Monica Padilla: (4:51:51 PM) Yeah, it'll be a tossup Monica Padilla: (4:52:01 PM) I think it'll all come down to Gillian Monica Padilla: (4:52:08 PM) Jimmy/Julie are a pair, Phil/Na are a pair Wendy Jo: (4:52:13 PM) Ahhh Monica Padilla: (4:52:15 PM) So she's somewhere in the middle Wendy Jo: (4:52:20 PM) Makes sense Wendy Jo: (4:53:10 PM) This has been a good convo. I think we have really laid some groundwork for a solid endgame. But I need to go take this online Final before the TAR finale Wendy Jo: (4:53:12 PM) Later!
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