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Post by Phillip Sheppard on Jan 6, 2012 19:56:58 GMT -5
As Monica had called it in CYS AS! So I noticed most of you didn't talk much about your game strategy in your opening and were leaving it up to the jury to ask that for you. In my experience the jury is more concerned with comparison questions and self praise type questions than strategic ones, so I will be asking that. Let's start with.....NATALIE!
A couple of questions for you, one in particular has been boggling my mind as well as Wendy's mind.
1. Why did you tell NaOnka the vote was for Julie right before the deadline, but kept your loyalties ultimately to Monica?
2. What was your game strategy at the beginning of the game, how did it change during the course of the game and what big moves made were you a part of in the game?
3. Why should I vote for you to win over Brett or Monica?
BRETT!!
1. What was your game strategy at the beginning of the game, how did it change during the course of the game and what big moves made were you a part of in the game?
2. Why should I vote for you to win over Natalie or Monica?And last, but without any doubt not least.........................................................................
MONICA!!!!
1. What was your game strategy at the beginning of the game, how did it change during the course of the game and what big moves made were you a part of in the game?
2. Why should I vote for you to win over Natalie or Brett?
More personal questions to you too:
3. Are you really an egotistical,obnoxious bitter asshole like you behaved on the jury in CYS AS?
4. Why did you despise my gameplay SOOOOOOOO much in CYS AS?
5. This game, clearly your main goal was to kill me, because you were willing to immediately quit afterwards. Then you back out of your BS quitting and continue on. I find it a bit annoying and immature when a person's entire reason for playing is to vote off one person than lay down their torch to die and kind of personal too.
6. What is your relationship with Gillian? Now clearly you bullshitted him about the vote for NaOnka, and Natalie was straight up with us and told us it was Julie. I told Gillian before the vote at Final 8 you would promise him the world and not to be fooled and sure enough you promised him the world and he fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Even had the plan worked, you would have been in the winner's position anyway and Gillian would have been a jury goat, so he was sacrificing himself for you essentially. From a gameplay perspective, there was nothing intelligent about the move (except blindsiding me, but completely the wrong way and the wrong time to do that).
7. How do you put up with Andy's over sensitivity to anything negative about himself, his constant self gloating and his inability to admit when he makes a mistake?
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Jan 6, 2012 22:20:55 GMT -5
NATALIE!
A couple of questions for you, one in particular has been boggling my mind as well as Wendy's mind.
1. Why did you tell NaOnka the vote was for Julie right before the deadline, but kept your loyalties ultimately to Monica?
~ I came to merge in a good terms with both sides. I love people on my side but I can't help the fact that I really like you and Nay.
Our plan was to vote Julie but we need to act like we're going to vote Nay. 15 minutes before deadline, Nay asked me about the vote. And she worried that it might be her.
I told her right away, she wasn't the target this week, but Julie. I told her to vote with us so she has the better chance and she did. My reason? I want her to be on my side. I like her and I want her to stay in this game as long as she can.
2. What was your game strategy at the beginning of the game, how did it change during the course of the game and what big moves made were you a part of in the game?
~ At the beginning, I just want to win the challenge and being social with other people. As you can see I worked hard in every challenges because I know when it come to merge you want to have the majority.
After merge, my plan was to be in good terms with both sides. I think I was in a good position. Brett/Steph want me to be in the Final 3 with them, but I also have alliance with Monica. I felt close to Jolt to. From the other sides, I got Nay & Phillip. I even consider them as my friends now. So my plan is to vote out people who could be a threat for me (Gilly, Julie & Wendy). I don't think they have problem to vote me out.
My biggest moves. Well I have to play a good social game with both sides and I need to be careful since I don't want to be caught. I talked strategy with Monica & Phillip at the same time, so I need to watch the aim window carefully  .
I know what's going on with both sides. And it's really to hard to pretend that you don't have any idea on what's going on but instead, you have the Power to change the game. I was also indirectly involved with Wendy Jo's elimination.
3. Why should I vote for you to win over Brett or Monica?
I think you should vote for me over Brett & Monica because of my overall game plan. I always thinking one step ahead. I planned ahead everything that I want to do.
Some people might questioned my decision to keep Monica over Steph. My original plan if Brett win immunity is to vote out Monica. But Monica sent me a PM
This is a game after all, Win or Loss is a normal thing when you played a game. Of course I want to win but if I loss this game because of me being a good friend, I'm not going to regret it. I hope everyone will understand my decision to keep Monica and not just assuming that I was her follower.
One more thing, being from different time zone was freakin' hard. When Steph failed to show up several times, I totally understand what she's going through. It was hard and you need passion and patience to be here. That's why I'm still in ORG.
And for the reasons above, I think you should vote for me Alex 
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Post by Phillip Sheppard on Jan 6, 2012 23:03:24 GMT -5
Thank you for your answers Natalie, and I have 1 more question for Brett I'd like to add on.
Brett you said you played 3 times, when was the 3rd time?
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Post by NaOnka Mixon on Jan 7, 2012 2:11:19 GMT -5
Brett you said you played 3 times, when was the 3rd time? My guess is Matty in CBS4. I'm getting a serious sense of deja vu reading his Final TC answers. |
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Post by Brett Clouser on Jan 7, 2012 2:31:27 GMT -5
My guess is Matty in CBS4. I'm getting a serious sense of deja vu reading his Final TC answers. lol... Good guess, Nay  |
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Jan 7, 2012 4:10:05 GMT -5
I knew it!!!!
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Post by Monica Padilla on Jan 7, 2012 10:14:18 GMT -5
Major lol at the entire final tree all having played in season four but playing as different reps.
Anyway, Phil, I don't have my internet access set up just yet, but as soon as I can get my laptop up and running I will answer your questions. (Should be within the next few hours.)
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Post by Brett Clouser on Jan 8, 2012 0:07:07 GMT -5
Hey Phillip! Just have to say that I love how you used purple font for my questions... That's awesome. 1. What was your game strategy at the beginning of the game, how did it change during the course of the game?When the game began, I didn't really know how I was going to play the game... Part of me believed that in an All Star season people expect a lot more from you, so I thought I would need to make some big moves and turn people against each other to stand out. But the other part of me believed that there were already lots of big personalities (e.g. Wendy, Eliza, Jimmy and Julie, Rob, you, etc) on this cast, so if I tried to be one of them I probably wouldn't last long. So for the first couple of rounds, I didn't have a set strategy. In challenges, I tried to be "second best" so people would see me as a reliable team player, but not as a threat. And when I found out who people were voting for, I talked to the target and tried to turn them against someone else, just to see if I could put spark some small-scale drama. I tried to feel people out for alliances (you and sort of Wendy), but I got the impression that people already had alliances on our original tribe, so I knew I had to look elsewhere. When I joined Kainai, I instantly made an alliance with Steph and Natalie, a side alliance with Monica, and then another mutual thing with all of them. I learned pretty quickly that Monica was one of those "big personalities" that I was talking about. She was good in challenges, she had connections with a lot of people, and she told me pretty early that she hated you over something you had done to her friend in another game and that she joined All Stars specifically to get rid of you. Sooner or later I knew you and Monica were going to come to blows, and I figured as long as she was around I could use her as a bit of a shield as I made a run for the Finals. Then, if Monica was voted out, at least it would buy me some time to re-design my strategy. So the tribe switch is really where my strategy came together. ... and what big moves made were you a part of in the game?I know some people have mentioned how crazy and intense this game was, but I actually thought it was pretty mild and predictable compared to most of the other games in this series. For me, there were really only 2 big moves this season: 1) when Jolt decided to give his Hidden Idol to NaOnka to eliminate Wendy; and 2) when Gillian voted for me instead of Monica at the Final 8. I didn't have anything to do with either of those moves, and I'm actually glad I didn't. The biggest move I did make in the game (as boring as this sounds) was just being loyal to my alliance and stepping up my game by winning the last two immunity challenges. That helped me to ensure that my biggest threat, NaOnka, didn't make the Finals, and if it wasn't for Monica pulling the "friend" card on Natalie it would have sealed Monica's fate as well. 2. Why should I vote for you to win over Natalie or Monica?There are 2 reasons why I think you should vote for me to win over Natalie and Monica. First, I earned my own spot in the Finals. I only had 1 vote cast against me in this entire game (thanks Gillian!) which is less than anyone else (except possibly tied with Natalie). And other than the Final 8 Tribal Council with the double elimination, I don't believe my name was ever thrown around as a potential target. I won the last 2 Immunity Challenges in a row (one endurance challenge and one skill/speed challenge) to make sure that NaOnka and Monica couldn't save themselves, but other than that I didn't rely on Immunity Challenges or Hidden Idols to keep me in the game. Second, even though I didn't make any big moves, I feel like I played the smartest game between the three of us. I don't blame Natalie for wanting to be a good friend and giving Monica a chance in the Finals of her last game before she quits for good, but strategically it was a bad move. I am 100% sure that Natalie would have had a better shot of winning against me and Steph than against me and Monica. And Monica just made a few mistakes throughout the game, like announcing it when she was using her Hidden Idol and repeatedly telling people she was fine with being voted out next and then taking it back. 3. Brett you said you played 3 times, when was the 3rd time?I played as Matty in Season 4. |
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Post by Monica Padilla on Jan 8, 2012 0:24:46 GMT -5
Alright. My apologies for the delay, I passed out at the keyboard.
1. What was your game strategy at the beginning of the game, how did it change during the course of the game and what big moves made were you a part of in the game?
My day one strategy was actually pretty simple - I planned on going to the finals with Amanda again. She and I had planned on working together again, which is why we started a huge fight at the final TC in CBS5 - in an attempt to make people think she and I were mad at each other, so we wouldn't get picked off early. This didn't exactly work, and after Amanda left and you decided to viciously mock her, my next course of action became to go after you. After you left, Christmas break happened, and spawned the conversation that Natalie posted, which cemented my desire to actually go out for the win.
As for what big moves I was a part of... well, I was part of the moves of trying to get rid of the Athena idol by flushing Julie. While it ultimately wasn't exactly a strategic success, it definitely was a huge help in getting Joel to trust us a bit more.
I also think that how I played the Wendy vote had a huge impact on the overall game. Natalie told me about the flip and the fake PM, but asked me not to tell you that I knew, and that immediately placed me in a difficult position. I decided to go aggro on Wendy, because the fact that she didn't come to me about your PM probably meant that she actually was going to flip, so I figured that confronting her directly would cause her to come back to us. That incident probably cemented the Kainai alliance for good, and ultimately the loyalties which were established that round (including Joel's astoundingly ill-advised flip) wound up getting me to the final four.
Then, of course, there was the final eight. I honestly lost track of how many hours I poured into the conversations that round, trying to engineer it just right so that you and I would be the ones to leave. If there had been two 4-4 ties, then the purple rock would have killed off two Athenas, and we all knew that, so turning the situation around from having my tribe guaranteed to lose two people, to a situation where we wound up in control was a huge thing. The problem with the whole thing was that I theoretically had Joel lined up to come back to Kainai (and according to him he actually DID originally vote for you, but changed at the last minute), but couldn't trust him for crap, so I had also worked a lot on Gillian. (I will explain that a LOT more in the answer to question 6.) With the sole exception that Carlos' TC rules prevented me from leaving, it went down pretty much exactly how I set it up.
2. Why should I vote for you to win over Natalie or Brett?
Because I was out there in the trenches, fighting, the whole game. I never once hung back, but I went balls out to go after what I wanted. I got lied to, I got betrayed, I was called the biggest threat from very early on, I racked up something like eleven votes against me, but at the end of the day I made it through - without ever having Immunity, which meant that I always had to go it on game skill alone.
3. Are you really an egotistical,obnoxious bitter asshole like you behaved on the jury in CYS AS?
When I'm suffering from mono and depression and taking about 25 hours of courses per week and dealing with all of the emotions that come from having to move to England for three months and leave everybody you've ever known (including your girlfriend) behind, I, like most people in the world, tend to not be in the best emotional state.
So, when I'm dealing with that kind of stress - I don't know that I'm egotistical and obnoxious, but then again those traits are notoriously hard to self-diagnose, but I do tend to carry a grudge and have a pretty serious disdain for those I regard as irritating, so probably.
With regards to my CYSAS jury question in particular: I basically tried to say I didn't care about it - which was true. What I thought would happen was that you guys would shrug it off, but instead I got a bunch of essays telling me that I had to care. If the finalists had simply accepted the fact that I didn't like them, it wouldn't have turned into the argument it became.
4. Why did you despise my gameplay SOOOOOOOO much in CYS AS?
I actually didn't have much of a problem with how you actually behaved within the course of the game. There wasn't much that you did on a strategic level that was actually offensive, to me. I have a healthy disrespect for anybody who uses the UTR strategy to get ahead, because I hate it when uselessness is rewarded in general, and seeing someone be useless on purpose is kind of a slap to those who actually try, imo. But, you did demonstrably have a lot of things that you were doing, so I can't really fault you.
What I despised about that game was that every single player was blatantly playing the same "take the losers to the end" strategy. It rewards uselessness, and basically shows that there's no point in actually putting in effort, because you can get just as far, if not further, by slacking off. And the fact that every single player was willing to screw over their friendships and loyalties at the drop of a hat to keep in the useless people was very frustrating to watch.
5. This game, clearly your main goal was to kill me, because you were willing to immediately quit afterwards. Then you back out of your BS quitting and continue on. I find it a bit annoying and immature when a person's entire reason for playing is to vote off one person than lay down their torch to die and kind of personal too.
That's not a question.
And the quitting was not BS. I fully intended to do it. But I was told repeatedly that I shouldn't quit, and following my girlfriend's ultimatum at the final six, I chose to listen.
I'm sorry you feel personally insulted, but to be honest, this is the first All Star game I'd played since CYSAS, and I was coming into it with a situation that was very, very similar to that game. I was pretty sure it was going to be another case of "Everybody scream about how much of a threat Monica is for forever, and then vote her off." And quite frankly I didn't want to deal with that again, so I decided that I was just going to approach this game with a different goal in mind, and see where it took me.
Far as I'm concerned, we resolved things that night on AIM, so I don't see this being a longstanding thing.
6. What is your relationship with Gillian? Now clearly you bullshitted him about the vote for NaOnka, and Natalie was straight up with us and told us it was Julie. I told Gillian before the vote at Final 8 you would promise him the world and not to be fooled and sure enough you promised him the world and he fell for it hook, line and sinker.
My relationship with Gillian is that I consider him to be a very good friend. He and I come from the same forum, originally, and we have a number of mutual experiences that we've bonded over.
I did mislead him about the Julie vote, and that was because I respect Gillian enough to be aware that she has a mind of her own. She was clearly playing her own game, and I didn't control her, and I was given to understand that her primary loyalties were to you. I also had no idea how much of what you were telling her was the truth, so for all I knew telling her that Julie was going would have resulted in me getting idoled out.
Even had the plan worked, you would have been in the winner's position anyway and Gillian would have been a jury goat, so he was sacrificing himself for you essentially. From a gameplay perspective, there was nothing intelligent about the move (except blindsiding me, but completely the wrong way and the wrong time to do that).
We'll have to agree to disagree about the timing. As I explained in my opening statement, I do legitimately believe that Gillian would have been a lock for the final four if the vote had gone according to plan. It changed from Brett/Steph to Steph/me, and Gillian didn't receive the PM in time, so she voted Brett, and that led to her leaving. If she had voted for me, it would have been a tie, and I would have been gone. That leaves Gillian in a favorable position, Joel and Na are next out, and then she'd have to fight at the final four, but fighting at the final four is clearly a better outcome than being a jury goat and guaranteed the final three, in my opinion.
7. How do you put up with Andy's over sensitivity to anything negative about himself, his constant self gloating and his inability to admit when he makes a mistake?
It's not easy. There are many, many people in the ORGosphere who have commended me for being the only person in the world who can stomach him for extended periods of time.
There ya go, Phil. Hope that settles everything you want to know, but if you want clarification on something, or more details, just let me know.
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Post by Phillip Sheppard on Jan 8, 2012 3:06:59 GMT -5
Alright. My apologies for the delay, I passed out at the keyboard. 1. What was your game strategy at the beginning of the game, how did it change during the course of the game and what big moves made were you a part of in the game?My day one strategy was actually pretty simple - I planned on going to the finals with Amanda again. She and I had planned on working together again, which is why we started a huge fight at the final TC in CBS5 - in an attempt to make people think she and I were mad at each other, so we wouldn't get picked off early. This didn't exactly work, and after Amanda left and you decided to viciously mock her, my next course of action became to go after you. After you left, Christmas break happened, and spawned the conversation that Natalie posted, which cemented my desire to actually go out for the win. As for what big moves I was a part of... well, I was part of the moves of trying to get rid of the Athena idol by flushing Julie. While it ultimately wasn't exactly a strategic success, it definitely was a huge help in getting Joel to trust us a bit more. I also think that how I played the Wendy vote had a huge impact on the overall game. Natalie told me about the flip and the fake PM, but asked me not to tell you that I knew, and that immediately placed me in a difficult position. I decided to go aggro on Wendy, because the fact that she didn't come to me about your PM probably meant that she actually was going to flip, so I figured that confronting her directly would cause her to come back to us. That incident probably cemented the Kainai alliance for good, and ultimately the loyalties which were established that round (including Joel's astoundingly ill-advised flip) wound up getting me to the final four. Then, of course, there was the final eight. I honestly lost track of how many hours I poured into the conversations that round, trying to engineer it just right so that you and I would be the ones to leave. If there had been two 4-4 ties, then the purple rock would have killed off two Athenas, and we all knew that, so turning the situation around from having my tribe guaranteed to lose two people, to a situation where we wound up in control was a huge thing. The problem with the whole thing was that I theoretically had Joel lined up to come back to Kainai (and according to him he actually DID originally vote for you, but changed at the last minute), but couldn't trust him for crap, so I had also worked a lot on Gillian. (I will explain that a LOT more in the answer to question 6.) With the sole exception that Carlos' TC rules prevented me from leaving, it went down pretty much exactly how I set it up. 2. Why should I vote for you to win over Natalie or Brett?Because I was out there in the trenches, fighting, the whole game. I never once hung back, but I went balls out to go after what I wanted. I got lied to, I got betrayed, I was called the biggest threat from very early on, I racked up something like eleven votes against me, but at the end of the day I made it through - without ever having Immunity, which meant that I always had to go it on game skill alone. 3. Are you really an egotistical,obnoxious bitter asshole like you behaved on the jury in CYS AS?When I'm suffering from mono and depression and taking about 25 hours of courses per week and dealing with all of the emotions that come from having to move to England for three months and leave everybody you've ever known (including your girlfriend) behind, I, like most people in the world, tend to not be in the best emotional state. So, when I'm dealing with that kind of stress - I don't know that I'm egotistical and obnoxious, but then again those traits are notoriously hard to self-diagnose, but I do tend to carry a grudge and have a pretty serious disdain for those I regard as irritating, so probably. With regards to my CYSAS jury question in particular: I basically tried to say I didn't care about it - which was true. What I thought would happen was that you guys would shrug it off, but instead I got a bunch of essays telling me that I had to care. If the finalists had simply accepted the fact that I didn't like them, it wouldn't have turned into the argument it became. 4. Why did you despise my gameplay SOOOOOOOO much in CYS AS?I actually didn't have much of a problem with how you actually behaved within the course of the game. There wasn't much that you did on a strategic level that was actually offensive, to me. I have a healthy disrespect for anybody who uses the UTR strategy to get ahead, because I hate it when uselessness is rewarded in general, and seeing someone be useless on purpose is kind of a slap to those who actually try, imo. But, you did demonstrably have a lot of things that you were doing, so I can't really fault you. What I despised about that game was that every single player was blatantly playing the same "take the losers to the end" strategy. It rewards uselessness, and basically shows that there's no point in actually putting in effort, because you can get just as far, if not further, by slacking off. And the fact that every single player was willing to screw over their friendships and loyalties at the drop of a hat to keep in the useless people was very frustrating to watch. 5. This game, clearly your main goal was to kill me, because you were willing to immediately quit afterwards. Then you back out of your BS quitting and continue on. I find it a bit annoying and immature when a person's entire reason for playing is to vote off one person than lay down their torch to die and kind of personal too.That's not a question. And the quitting was not BS. I fully intended to do it. But I was told repeatedly that I shouldn't quit, and following my girlfriend's ultimatum at the final six, I chose to listen. I'm sorry you feel personally insulted, but to be honest, this is the first All Star game I'd played since CYSAS, and I was coming into it with a situation that was very, very similar to that game. I was pretty sure it was going to be another case of "Everybody scream about how much of a threat Monica is for forever, and then vote her off." And quite frankly I didn't want to deal with that again, so I decided that I was just going to approach this game with a different goal in mind, and see where it took me. Far as I'm concerned, we resolved things that night on AIM, so I don't see this being a longstanding thing. 6. What is your relationship with Gillian? Now clearly you bullshitted him about the vote for NaOnka, and Natalie was straight up with us and told us it was Julie. I told Gillian before the vote at Final 8 you would promise him the world and not to be fooled and sure enough you promised him the world and he fell for it hook, line and sinker.My relationship with Gillian is that I consider him to be a very good friend. He and I come from the same forum, originally, and we have a number of mutual experiences that we've bonded over. I did mislead him about the Julie vote, and that was because I respect Gillian enough to be aware that she has a mind of her own. She was clearly playing her own game, and I didn't control her, and I was given to understand that her primary loyalties were to you. I also had no idea how much of what you were telling her was the truth, so for all I knew telling her that Julie was going would have resulted in me getting idoled out. Even had the plan worked, you would have been in the winner's position anyway and Gillian would have been a jury goat, so he was sacrificing himself for you essentially. From a gameplay perspective, there was nothing intelligent about the move (except blindsiding me, but completely the wrong way and the wrong time to do that).We'll have to agree to disagree about the timing. As I explained in my opening statement, I do legitimately believe that Gillian would have been a lock for the final four if the vote had gone according to plan. It changed from Brett/Steph to Steph/me, and Gillian didn't receive the PM in time, so she voted Brett, and that led to her leaving. If she had voted for me, it would have been a tie, and I would have been gone. That leaves Gillian in a favorable position, Joel and Na are next out, and then she'd have to fight at the final four, but fighting at the final four is clearly a better outcome than being a jury goat and guaranteed the final three, in my opinion. 7. How do you put up with Andy's over sensitivity to anything negative about himself, his constant self gloating and his inability to admit when he makes a mistake?It's not easy. There are many, many people in the ORGosphere who have commended me for being the only person in the world who can stomach him for extended periods of time. There ya go, Phil. Hope that settles everything you want to know, but if you want clarification on something, or more details, just let me know.
Now you say you signed up only to make F2 with Amanda again and kill me, but what I find so ironic about that is in your Jury question to me in CYS:
"But, if what I've heard from Christy about your reason for playing Devil's Island being to make a final three with her and Jaime in this game is true, then honestly, I don't even know what to call that. You'd be about three steps down from Marcus. "Absofuckinglutely Retarded" doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of how stupid that strategy is.
Now, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, here. I'm going to choose to believe that nobody with a working brain could actually be THAT retarded. Because if you actually did that, then, to put this in terms of your Mario Kart analogy, you weren't the lead driver. You weren't even in the fucking race. You were like... well, look. When my friends and I were playing video games and my friend's little brother wanted to play but we knew he'd screw everything up, we'd just unplug his controller and tell him he was playing and beating us. That's the kind of player you would have to be, if you actually had your thumb up your butt enough to make that kind of strategy. "
With for the record, wasn't true, but isn't that a bit hypocritical considering what your strategy was going into this game? Especially since you were so ready to quit right after.
Your behavior in CYS was some of the annoying things I ever had to endure. Your belittling the other jurors and the way you handled yourself in the jury area was also extremely frustrating to read, and there are other people in the game who agree with me, who shall remain nameless.
But whatever, I have certainly had my own outbursts as well, it happens. I am sure you will not be permanently quitting the ORG world and when you do return you will probably forever be alias to avoid people targeting you for your greatness.
I played very NOT under the radar in this game, because that's what the game called for this time. I was already in the spotlight from being on Athena and behind in numbers. In CYS AS like you said, everyone were betraying friends and allies because they were big threats, from the VERY beginning ( this was why Alexis was the first one to go, over Matty or John who should have gone). The situation in that game made my UTR strategy the best way to play, and it proved true.
It's not that surprising you are such great friends with Andyman cause you 2 are very similar in your personality, except you are much more intelligent and more rational than he is, and your girlfriend is actually a real female who knows you and loves you, not some fantasy that you never met and or have the guts to go on a "Mud Run" and meet because deep down you will know you be rejected.Consequently, Brett you played a very similar strategy to the way I did when I won an AS game. From a jury perspective it is frustrating and I can understand that being that position now, but it is a viable strategy and it worked for you 3 times in a row now to make the finals, plus you won the last 2 immunity challenges, beating out NaOnka and Monica. I don't think anyone can discredit a strategy that worked so well 3 times in a row.
Natalie, whereas Brett lacked in his social game admittedly, your social game was excellent. Your decision to tell NaOnka the vote was Julie was a gamble, because had Julie not been hammered by a falling coconut and knocked unconscious, her idol could have been played and anyone on Kainai could have gone ( in this instance it would have been Joel, which would be another terrible Athena decision like Wendy and hence why we deserved to lose).
You had a great way of being loyal to your allies but also caring and honest to other people (even if you didnt really intend of working with them in the game) and that totally threw me off because I had thought you were willing to flip to us, and it changed the entire game indirectly. NaOnka wanted to get you and Steph on our side, when we really should have gone to Wendy and Joel.
You somehow managed to be loyal to your alliance and honest with everyone without being fake in the process which is very hard to pull off, so for that I commend you.
I really think the jury should look more into Natalie and Brett's games as both of them really had a lot to do with getting themselves here and not carried by Monica the whole way as a lot of the jury thinks. If you look at it objectively, it was a lot of very poor decisions made by the Athena players that paved the way.
Anyway, Good luck Final 3
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Post by Monica Padilla on Jan 8, 2012 12:11:08 GMT -5
What Christy told me was that you played Devil's Island with the express intent to make All Stars so that you could make an alliance with her and Jaime. I didn't join CBS5 with the express aim to win All Stars. I joined CBS5 to win CBS5 - and I didn't even know Andy was in the cast until three rounds in. Plus, what I said in my answers was that I joined the game to try and make final two, just for the giggles. My goal didn't change to killing you until after Amanda was gone. So, to the best of my knowledge, it's completely different.
I've apologized for that, I've said repeatedly that it wasn't personal against you or anybody, and I honestly don't know what more you want me to say. And if other people didn't like how I was behaving, they should have talked to me about it. Obviously they didn't, so I can't really do anything to make amends on that front.
Eh, well, I am intending to quit permanently in April. So if you see me around after that, feel free to IM me saying something like "Ha! In your face!"
Hey, I'm not disagreeing that UTR was a good strategy for you. It won you the game, after all. I just happen to personally dislike it, that's all.
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Post by Phillip Sheppard on Jan 9, 2012 7:10:24 GMT -5
What Christy told me was that you played Devil's Island with the express intent to make All Stars so that you could make an alliance with her and Jaime. I didn't join CBS5 with the express aim to win All Stars. I joined CBS5 to win CBS5 - and I didn't even know Andy was in the cast until three rounds in. Plus, what I said in my answers was that I joined the game to try and make final two, just for the giggles. My goal didn't change to killing you until after Amanda was gone. So, to the best of my knowledge, it's completely different. I've apologized for that, I've said repeatedly that it wasn't personal against you or anybody, and I honestly don't know what more you want me to say. And if other people didn't like how I was behaving, they should have talked to me about it. Obviously they didn't, so I can't really do anything to make amends on that front. Eh, well, I am intending to quit permanently in April. So if you see me around after that, feel free to IM me saying something like "Ha! In your face!" Hey, I'm not disagreeing that UTR was a good strategy for you. It won you the game, after all. I just happen to personally dislike it, that's all. Since you insulted my intelligence multiple times and called me a cockroach, a simple apology is a little weak, but I accept your apology. It was completely and utterly unprovoked in CYS AS, I suppose this game it came from my insulting your....."friend" or whatever it is. It is the thing the also called Gillian both a pedophile and a lover of bestiality because he jokes about liking "My Little Pony" cartoons, more evidence of "its" utter lack of sense of humor and disregard. Don't believe me? Ask Gillian. Unfortunately hays1392 deleted those posts, and IT couldnt even apologize to Gillian for calling him these things, instead he blamed Gillian somehow. At least you apologized, more evidence as to why you're a better version of Andy, barely tolerable as opposed to intolerable. Almost a quitter but not quite a quitter like Andy as well. I cannot on principle vote for you however because of the whole quitting thing and desperate attempt to have yourself be voted off with me at the F8. I don't believe that the winner of the game should be someone who had wanted to quit and nearly did if it were not for host disallowing it. |
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Post by Monica Padilla on Jan 9, 2012 14:12:46 GMT -5
Fair enough.
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