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Post by Gillian Larson on Jan 8, 2012 16:45:22 GMT -5
Congrats you three on making FTC. So I'm going to ask my favorite question of all time that you all have probably seen me ask quite a few times by now. Suppose neither of your two opponents are allowed to sit where they are right now and assume you are never going to get a jury vote to save your life. Which two jury members would you have sitting with you in the FTC and why? I would also like you to give a reason why the other jury members deserve to win yet why you didn't put them in the FTC.
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Post by Gillian Larson on Jan 8, 2012 16:49:11 GMT -5
Oh, and out of curiosity, with your reformed FTC/jury, and still assuming you will get 0 votes no matter what you say, how do you think the vote breakdown would go and why?
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Post by Brett Clouser on Jan 8, 2012 21:10:36 GMT -5
Hey Gillian!
Suppose neither of your two opponents are allowed to sit where they are right now and assume you are never going to get a jury vote to save your life. Which two jury members would you have sitting with you in the FTC and why?
Don't think I've seen this question before, but I like it! Personally, I like seeing people in the Finals fight to win. For me, nothing is more frustrating than being on the jury and having one person just roll over because they're in the Finals with their best friend (e.g. Eliza and Carolina in Cb Survivor 3).
I would want to see Phillip and Wendy in the Finals because I think both of them played a very good game; both of them would have some very good reasons why they deserve to win; and I think both of them would put up a good fight.
Honourable mention would go to NaOnka, for all of the same reasons I put for Phillip and Wendy... and any combination of those 3 would be fun to watch.
I would also like you to give a reason why the other jury members deserve to win yet why you didn't put them in the FTC.
Steph - With strategists like Boston Rob and Russell Hantz from the real show, fans have come to expect the winner to be someone who has made big moves and dominated every aspect of the game... and there doesn't seem to be as much respect for some of the original pioneers who won the game despite not doing very much of anything, like Tina Wesson. Steph made it to the Final 4 without much of a social game or competitive game, and while a lot of people don't respect that, I believe there's something to be said about someone who can get from start to finish without having a master strategy.
NaOnka - NaOnka was supposed to be voted out at the Final 9, but with the help of Joel's Hidden Idol she went on to outlast everyone else from the Athena Tribe. She was one hell of a fighter, she had a nice challenge streak going, and if she had made it to the Finals I have no doubt that she would have won the game.
Jolt - In an otherwise predictable game, Jolt made the first and one of the only game-changing moves by giving his Hidden Idol to NaOnka and eliminating Wendy. If he had made it to the Finals, he certainly would have deserved his spot and would have had a compelling argument for why he should win.
Gillian - You weren't the most outspoken player, but you had a good thing going. If it wasn't a Double Elimination at the Final 8 TC, you for sure would have survived the following round and would have had a good shot of cracking into the Final 4. Your game had a lot of potential; it all just came down to that one vote.
Julie - She had a Hidden Idol, and if she had been able to use it the round she was voted out, this entire game might have played out differently. I don't know enough about what she did in this game to say why she would deserve to win, but I know she's good with words and she can manipulate people like no other.
Jimmy - Again, I don't know the specifics on what Jimmy did in this game to say why he would deserve to win, but it seems like he was playing a more well-rounded game in comparison to Cb Survivor 4. Jimmy isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, and I think people respect that a lot more in an All Star game than a regular season.
Rob - Rob was definitely the Most Improved Player this season. He joined this game as the only "*Not an Allstar*" and went on to outlast a lot of very strong players. Even though he was the first jury member, he still stirred things up while he was in the game.
Oh, and out of curiosity, with your reformed FTC/jury, and still assuming you will get 0 votes no matter what you say, how do you think the vote breakdown would go and why?
Alright, back to Phillip vs. Wendy:
Steph - [ WENDY ] because Wendy had been loyal to us.
NaOnka - [ PHILLIP ], also out of loyalty.
Jolt - [ PHILLIP ] since he essentially helped Phillip's side to eliminate Wendy. I don't pretend to know what goes on in this guy's head, but I don't think Jolt would make a decision until after the Jury Q&A.
Gillian - [ PHILLIP ], again mostly out of loyalty.
Julie - [ WENDY ] maybe? Julie would vote for whoever she felt played the better game.
Jimmy - [ PHILLIP ] because they have more of a bond with each other than Jimmy does with Wendy
Rob - [ WENDY ] because Rob and Wendy had been on Chehalis together, and they seemed to be working together.
Monica - [ WENDY ] because Monica had a personal vendetta against Phillip and wanted him out so badly that there's no way she would have voted for Phillip to win. Plus, I think Monica has a lot of respect for Wendy.
Natalie - [ PHILLIP ] because Natalie is pretty good friends with Phillip and NaOnka, and never seemed to trust Wendy as much.
So let's add that up... 5 votes for Phillip, 4 votes for Wendy. But in the list above, I think Julie and Jimmy would be the deciding votes, so it could really go either way.
Thanks Gillian!
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Jan 8, 2012 23:31:09 GMT -5
Hey Gilly!!!!!!! Suppose neither of your two opponents are allowed to sit where they are right now and assume you are never going to get a jury vote to save your life. Which two jury members would you have sitting with you in the FTC and why?Hmmm. I would say Phillip & Nay. Honestly I can see myself with them at Final 3. They're very close to each other. And even though we were from different sides, our connection was so strong I would also like you to give a reason why the other jury members deserve to win yet why you didn't put them in the FTC.Steph - Being from different time zone, you need a lot of commitment and I think even though it's really hard for her, she tried her best. I adore her for that. Jolt - Jolt is ready to make any moves to make sure he would go further. I think he realized that he might be the number 5 in our alliance and he tried his best to avoid being the Number 5 Gillian - I think Gilly deserved to win because she's a risk taker. I think she'a little bit trauma from the "Purple Rock" and she don't want to risk her safety again. Wendy - Former Winner. Very smart, determined and sneaky in her own way. If Phillip didn't told me anything about wanting her to flip, I totally can see her flipping because she knew her current position wasn't good enough. Julie - Another Former Winner. I love Jedi Julie. I honestly can see her winning again. She was supposed to stay with her HII but the timing wasn't right for her. Jimmy - Jimmy. Another smart player and willing to make a bold move. Every games need a villain and he's the Villain for this game Rob - A mastermind. Very sneaky but yet charming. Too bad he wasn't in a great position this time Oh, and out of curiosity, with your reformed FTC/jury, and still assuming you will get 0 votes no matter what you say, how do you think the vote breakdown would go and why?Phillip - Rob, Jimmy, Jolt, Brett, Wendy & Gilly (The jury will see Phillip as the leader here. He's the mastermind and won a lot of challenges) Naonka - Steph, Julie, Monica (Naonka will get severl votes. She's the one with the personality here. Funny, charming and cranky!!! For this final 3, she probably has the best social games) Natalie - No!!!!! (well I guess, I'd backstabbed Monica, Steph, Brett, Jolt & Wendy for me to be here with Phillip & Nay) Thanks Gilly!!!!!
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Post by Monica Padilla on Jan 9, 2012 1:01:04 GMT -5
Hey, Morgan. Interesting question.
Suppose neither of your two opponents are allowed to sit where they are right now and assume you are never going to get a jury vote to save your life. Which two jury members would you have sitting with you in the FTC and why?
I think that an All Star winner should definitely be the person who played the most dominant game across the board, socially, physically, or strategically. I mean, after all, the All Star winner is the person who kind of defines the series, right?
So I would absolutely pick NaOnka and Phillip, as I think they probably played the two most dominant games out of the jurors. Phillip had a lot of skill in the challenges, and he was the de facto leader of the Athenas, and he had a lot of good strategic ideas, while NaOnka was also a rockstar at the ICs, and had some phenomenal social skills to boot.
I would also like you to give a reason why the other jury members deserve to win yet why you didn't put them in the FTC.
Rob Why He Should Win: Rob overcame a lot of adversity in the game, so I think he'd probably get votes for being an underdog. Why I Didn't Pick Him: Rob was a good schemer, but he didn't really lead things or have much control.
Jimmy Why He Should Win: Jimmy is a skilled schemer and manipulator, and he played an excellent game in OI, so I think he could definitely do it again. Why I Didn't Pick Him: I personally could never once get ahold of Jimmy on AIM, so I didn't see him as being quite as dominant as Phillip or Na.
Julie Why She Should Win: Julie is a master at overcoming adversity and turning things around to her own advantage. She's also a great person to talk to. Why I Didn't Pick Her: I think just due to real-life stresses Julie didn't really have the same ability to kick ass that she did in season four, so probably that would have hindered her a bit here.
Wendy Why She Should Win: Wendy was absolutely my third pick for the fantasy final three, because she was a total mastermind. She had great social skills, a great strategy, and she never backed down from her reputation as a threat. Why I Didn't Pick Her: Despite being so fantastic, Wendy didn't perform as stellarly in the challenges as the other two.
Gillian Why She Should Win: Gillian's a smart person who's willing to take risks and do what it takes to put herself in a better position. Why I Didn't Pick Him: I think Gillian played fairly UTR for a good stretch of the game, and while I think it definitely served well to keep her from being a threat, it also made a few people less inclined to see her as being quite as good as the other two.
Joel Why He Should Win: Joel was a pretty ruthless schemer, and he did whatever he felt he had to do to get ahead in the game. Why I Didn't Pick Him: Joel let emotions dictate his actions sometimes, and he made moves that sometimes weren't timed well enough to actually benefit him. If they had worked out a bit more, I'd have put him in.
Stephenie Why She Should Win: Steph was a very loyal person, and she didn't muck around with the setup she had. Why I Didn't Pick Her: Steph also didn't really seem to have as much time to devote to the game as other people, and that was a bit of a drawback.
Oh, and out of curiosity, with your reformed FTC/jury, and still assuming you will get 0 votes no matter what you say, how do you think the vote breakdown would go and why?
Ech. I hate putting words in other people's mouths, but here goes...
Rob - votes for Phillip. He and Phillip bonded a bit over their mutual hatred of Eliza and Amanda, so that would probably play into it. Jimmy - votes for Phillip. I'm not one hundred percent sure of how the Athena dynamics worked out, but I think that as a good schemer, Jimmy would vote for who he thought played the best strategic game, and in that particular final three Phillip would have a slight edge in that department. Julie - votes for NaOnka. I think Julie was a bit on the outs of Athena, so my guess is she'd vote for Na, since Na seemed like the most socially neutral of the group. Wendy - votes for NaOnka. I think Wendy would probably vote based on social skills and that sort of thing, rather than control, and Na was a lot more friendly and easier to talk to than Phil. Gillian - votes for Phillip. Gillian and Phil have played before, and I think that Gillian would probably vote for him based on their good relations. Joel - votes for Phillip, probably. Joel's hard to predict, and I'm tempted to say he'd do something similar to this and vote based on who answers his question first or best, so I'm going to guess that Phillip would be inclined to stalk the thread and answer his jury question first to snag the vote. Stephenie - votes for NaOnka. Steph's a bit less social than most, so I'm more inclined to believe that she'd be more likely to have had more interaction with Na than Phil, because Na is online more. Brett - votes for Phillip. Brett mentioned a few times that he got along well with Phil, so I wouldn't doubt that he'd vote for him. Natalie - votes for Phillip. I think she had a better social relationship with him.
Thanks for the questions, Morgan. Good luck with your decision!
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Post by NaOnka Mixon on Jan 9, 2012 1:06:16 GMT -5
Aww, I can't even win a hypothetical Final TC
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Post by Monica Padilla on Jan 9, 2012 1:37:47 GMT -5
Well, you got more votes than me.
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Post by NaOnka Mixon on Jan 9, 2012 1:57:46 GMT -5
Yay! I beat Hypothetical Monica!
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Post by Joel Anderson on Jan 9, 2012 5:21:49 GMT -5
In a FTC between NaOnka and Phillip, I'd probably vote for NaOnka. :/
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Post by Phillip Sheppard on Jan 9, 2012 6:56:47 GMT -5
Awww thanks guys
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